I must say, there is something about us Loggers - not too many doctors, lawyers, or presidents in the bunch - Ivy Leaguers we are not - but certainly a breed of bright, interesting, high-achieving people pursuing their dreams and helping to make the world a better place.
Bio info - who are you, how old are you,
where are you from, where do you live, what's your living/family situation,
what are your hobbies, etc. Essentially, what's your story?
My name
is Lindsay and I am almost 32 years old.
I grew up in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho and moved to Spokane, Washington when
I was 16 years old. Currently, I live in
Portland, Oregon with my husband, Colin, and my two cats Clementine and Birdie. We just bought a 1969 split entry house that
definitely has a Brady Bunch vibe inside and out. I love living in Portland and take advantage
of all there is to offer here: good food, strong coffee, well-established bike
lanes, eccentric people to watch, public transportation, and close proximity to
both the mountains and ocean. My hobbies
include sewing, crafting, running, riding my bike, and doing home improvement
projects.
What is your current job/profession? What
path did you take to get there?
I am a cardiac
sonographer at Doernbecher Children’s Hospital which is part of Oregon Health
and Science University (OHSU) in Portland, Oregon.
Cardiac sonography, cardiac ultrasound, and echocardiography are all
used interchangeably which is confusing to people not familiar with my field
and makes searching for job opportunities that
much more difficult. In the most basic
of terms, I use an ultrasound machine to take pictures and movies of the heart,
called an echocardiogram or “echo.” Yes,
this is the same technology, and the same machine, used for ultrasounds on
pregnant women to evaluate their growing babies. I have found that most people don’t realize
that ultrasound can evaluate just about every part of the body: muscles,
abdominal organs, arteries and veins, breasts, brains and hearts. Specifically, I am a pediatric cardiac
sonographer, so I echo children, fetuses, and some adults with congenital heart
disease.
A still frame of the heart taken from the center of the chest, called the Parasternal Long Axis view.
The
path to my current position was a circuitous one and I apologize for the
lengthy description below…
I
attended University of Puget Sound from 2000-2004 where I met Jo when we became
sorority sisters (Hottie, Tottie!). At
UPS, I majored in Biology and minored in Environmental Studies. After graduating from UPS, I spent a year
living in New Zealand all by myself. While there, I traveled and worked various
jobs including: a waitress, a bartender, a barista, working at an outdoor
clothing/equipment store, manual labor on vineyards, and cleaning hostels in
exchange for room and board.
When I
came back to the states, I moved to Portland, Oregon and took a job at
Nordstrom to pay the bills while I looked for “real” work but ended up staying
there for a little over 2 years, which was perfect for my early 20s bar hopping
lifestyle. During this time, I met my
husband, Colin, while waiting in line for coffee at the Downtown Nordstrom
coffee shop. I quit Nordstrom because I
wanted to work regular hours (my shifts were mostly evenings and weekends) and wanted
to spend more time with Colin. I got a
job at an environmental non-profit where I started out as a receptionist and
was promoted to the sales team after less than a year. Shortly after that,
Colin was accepted to law school in California and we spent a year and a half
apart, travelling to see each other every other weekend or so.
It was
during this time that I realized that I needed to find a career that would
allow me to work almost anywhere so that Colin and I wouldn’t have to juggle a
long distance relationship, and started to look into healthcare
professions. I knew I didn’t want to be
a nurse, so I started looking into other aspects of healthcare. My mom brought up the career when she
reminded me that she dated a radiologist, who gave me a light box with x-rays,
CTs, and ultrasound films when I was a kid, and let me spend some time in the
ultrasound department. I decided to job
shadow at a few places in Portland to see if this career was a good fit for me and
ended up applying to most of the ultrasound programs on the West coast just to
see what would happen.
A
school in Merced, California offered two separate programs: cardiac and general
ultrasound. I applied to the cardiac
program because it started 6 months earlier than all other school’s programs
and was accepted! In 2008, I sold my
condo and moved to a place that was essentially the opposite of Portland:
Fresno, California. In 2010, I graduated
from the adult echocardiography program and was hired at two hospitals in
Fresno, one full time and one per diem (as needed plus overnight call). It was at this full time job that I learned
about, and fell in love with, pediatric and fetal echocardiography. I realized in order to be fulfilled in my
life I would need to pursue that part of cardiac ultrasound because adult echos
just weren’t my thing.
After
Colin graduated from law school, we decided to make it our goal to move to
Washington State. He took the bar exam
and got a job in Eastern Washington while I continued working in Fresno and
searching for jobs close to him. After
ten months, I accepted a position working for Seattle Children’s Hospital at
their outpatient clinics in the Tri-Cities, Wenatchee, and Yakima. I will forever be grateful for the
opportunity to work for Seattle Children’s because it gave me the experience I
needed to cement my career as a pediatric
cardiac sonographer. However, driving
for hours everyday to outreach clinics became tiring and I missed the hustle
and bustle of working in a hospital (plus, Colin and I were engaged and living
4 hours apart) so I decided to keep my eye out for other positions in the
Northwest. Specifically, in larger
cities that would have job opportunities for both of us. A position opened up at OHSU and I decided to
apply just to see what would happen. After
a nerve-racking two day interview and many weeks of waiting, I was offered the
job (my current position) and within three weeks I got married, packed up my
apartment, and moved to Portland to start my new job.
As a follow-up question, I asked Lindsay about the training program:
Most programs either require completion of a previous Allied Health degree (X-Ray, Nurse, Medical Assistant, etc.) or a Bachelor degree. It is not a graduate program and there are a LOT of accredited programs at community colleges. I have a "certificate" in Cardiac Sonography, but there are also a handful of Bachelor programs. Currently, there are no graduate programs in sonography, however, I have heard that one is in the works on the east coast.
What are the pros and cons of your current position?
As a follow-up question, I asked Lindsay about the training program:
Most programs either require completion of a previous Allied Health degree (X-Ray, Nurse, Medical Assistant, etc.) or a Bachelor degree. It is not a graduate program and there are a LOT of accredited programs at community colleges. I have a "certificate" in Cardiac Sonography, but there are also a handful of Bachelor programs. Currently, there are no graduate programs in sonography, however, I have heard that one is in the works on the east coast.
What are the pros and cons of your current position?
Pros: I work with kids and cute, sleepy, little
newborns. There is always a Disney
moving playing somewhere which means I get to see parts of the Little Mermaid
many times each week. I get to talk
about the color pink, glitter, dump trucks, recess, and math with my
patients. I give out stickers at the end
of an exam and usually get a big smile and a quiet thank you. I spend anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour
with my patients and their families, so we have time to get to know each other
and I love learning about other people’s lives.
Since kids with congenital heart disease are followed by cardiology
throughout their lives, and get routine echos, I get to watch kids grow up and
change as people. I get to spend time in
the operating room during open heart surgeries (this might be a con to
some!). The echo lab is the center of a
lot of discussions about clinical management of cardiac patients and I get to
learn a LOT from cardiologists about congenital heart disease outside of my
scope of work. My coworkers are
incredible and I feel like they are a second family to me. I say this all the time to everyone I know,
but I am SO lucky to have this job.
Cons: I work with really sick kids. Patients with congenital
heart disease sometimes struggle to live, especially right after an operation. I’ve been present the moment a kid takes his
last breath and have witnessed too many “code blues” to count. I work with families that neglect their kids
and DHS has to come take them away. I
get called into stressful situations where a patient is crashing and I have to
image their heart quickly and efficiently while giving the cardiologist my
impressions. Trying to bribe a 2 year
old to lie still for 30 minutes is totally impossible, even with Elmo. I have to listen to Dora waaaaay too
often. My job requires me to take call
on evenings, weekends, and holidays so I miss out on some fun events,
Christmas’, and my sleep gets interrupted. I still go to outreach clinics, which involve
hours and hours of driving on top of a jam-packed day of patient appointments, and
some of the outreach clinics are overnight.
I work in a dark room without windows, stare at computer screens all
day, and my field is notorious for causing musculoskeletal disorders.
Finally,
I’m unsure whether to put this as a pro or a con, but working with congenital
heart disease is complicated and fascinating and exciting and scary all at
once. On one hand, a complicated
congenital heart defect can be the highlight of my day because I’m the one
piecing together heart anatomy and the flow of blood through a patient’s body
and I know that physicians, surgeons, and medical students will be pouring over
my echo to understand the patient’s anatomy.
It’s exciting to discover something rare or something I’ve never seen
before. On the other hand, complicated
congenital heart defects are usually not compatible with life outside the
womb. I know a family’s world is about
to change drastically because their child has a long uphill battle ahead of
them that involves many risky surgeries throughout their lifetime.
Walk us through a typical day, week, or month ...
There
are a total of six sonographers in our Echo Lab and we have four outpatient
rooms going throughout the day in addition to inpatient orders and operating
room cases. We do three different types
of echos in our lab: Transthoracic (TTE), Transesophageal (TEE), and Fetal
Echos. Transthoracic echos comprise the
majority of my day and involve rubbing a probe across the outside of a
patient’s chest to obtain pictures of the heart. A fetal echo is an evaluation of a fetus’
heart when there is suspicion or increased risk for congenital heart
disease. This is my favorite exam and
the best part of my day because fetal echos are challenging and
unpredictable. TEE’s involve the doctor
placing an ultrasound probe down the patient’s esophagus to image the
heart. This is the method we use in the
operating room before and after every heart surgery and sometimes during cases
in the Cath Lab. During TEE’s the doctor
manipulates the probe while I man the buttons on the machine.
My day
starts at 8am. (Since this is Portland,
I either ride my bike or take a bus to the base of the tram and then take the
tram up the hill to OHSU.) I usually
have a patient waiting soon after I arrive.
After quickly scanning their chart and previous echo findings, I call them
back into the exam room. Our echos are
scheduled for 60 minutes, but we usually get them done in around 30
minutes. I start by asking the kids
which movie they’d like to watch, then have them take off their shirt (and put
on a gown if age appropriate!). They lie
down on their side and I hook up three EKG electrodes to their chest. I then put gel on my probe and place it on my
patient’s chest.
Every
echo exam goes through the same series of images every single time, with the
ability to add additional imaging as the sonographer sees fit. Contrary to popular belief, manipulating an
ultrasound probe requires fine motor skills and problem solving to obtain an
adequate image. We are taking 2D images of a 3D organ, and we have to
understand the physics of ultrasound to ensure we are acquiring the best
possible diagnostic information. It’s
much more than simply holding a probe on a person’s body. For a transthoracic echo, I start at the
center of the chest to acquire a combination of moving three-second loops and
still frames of each part of the heart.
I also evaluate blood flow through the chambers and valves and obtain a
velocity through each valve. Next, the
heart is evaluated from the left lower side of the chest, then from the belly
(just below the ribs) and finally from the base of the neck to evaluate the top
of the heart and the vessels coming into and out of it. My echos usually contain 120 images and moving
clips for the cardiologist to read. Once
I’m finished, I take the patient’s blood pressure and send them off to see the
doctor. Afterwards, I spend 10-15 minutes processing the study in an imaging
application to get it ready for the cardiologist to read. This involves making measurements, writing my
overall impressions of the patient’s cardiac anatomy and physiology, and
bringing up any concerns I may have. On average, I do five echocardiograms per
day.
When
I’m not doing echos I read journal articles, review prior echos, work on random
projects around our echo lab, and chat with coworkers. I leave work at 4:30pm. Some of my coworkers work four 10-hour shifts
in the lab but I work five 8-hour shifts.
When I am assigned to outreach clinics, I usually start my day about an
hour earlier and get back to the hospital between 5pm and 6pm. If I’m on call, I’ll stay late if a kid is
still in the operating room for the post-op TEE or if there is an urgent need
for an echo on an inpatient.
What is something about your job that other people might not know or expect?
What is something about your job that other people might not know or expect?
We work
REALLY closely with the pediatric cardiologists. I think a lot of patients and families think
an echo is just a small portion of their hospital experience and annual care
because they generally tend to bond with nurses given the amount of time they
spend together. In reality, the
sonographer is the first person to identify a problem with a child’s heart and
the cardiologist’s really rely on us determine exact anatomy since we have our
hands on the probe while imaging. Our
echo images are used to make surgical decisions (often without any other
imaging technique such as CT or MRI) and medical management changes. We participate in surgical conferences and
have long discussions with physicians about our findings. Patient’s names become ingrained in our
memory along with intricate details of their diagnosis and subsequent surgical
repairs. There are some last names I
don’t think I’ll ever forget.
Ultrasound
is limited by body type and size! If a
patient is really skinny and bony we have a really hard time getting good
images. Similarly, it is difficult to
get good diagnostic studies on overweight patients. We are limited by the physics of ultrasound
waves and sometimes we just can’t image the heart well enough to answer a
doctor’s question. Therefore, other,
more expensive and risky imaging techniques may have to be ordered such as CT
or MRI.
We
wreck our bodies in this profession. I
just read a journal article that found 90% of us are scanning in pain (myself
included) and many people have to end their careers early due to work related
musculoskeletal disorders. Our arms are
fixed in unnatural positions while scanning, overweight patients require us to
push with all our strength for 30 minutes straight, and grasping probes cause
carpel tunnel problems.
What other jobs could you work with your
education/training/experience?
My
training is very limited to what I do: echocardiograms. I could transfer to an adult only lab but if
I want to work in other areas of ultrasound I would have to go back to school
or find someone interested in training me on the job.
How much do you make? (Too forward?!? Probably. But let's be real, a large part of the reason we work is to make money - give us some deets about your income, as much as you feel comfortable sharing, whether specific to your personal salary, or generally speaking, as in, What Would Google Say).
How much do you make? (Too forward?!? Probably. But let's be real, a large part of the reason we work is to make money - give us some deets about your income, as much as you feel comfortable sharing, whether specific to your personal salary, or generally speaking, as in, What Would Google Say).
I work
for a union, so I’ll share the range of hourly wages. At OHSU, cardiac sonographers currently start
out at $33 per hour and the pay scale tops out at $46 per hour. That equates to an annual salary of
approximately $69,000- $96,000 per year and does not include on call time or
overtime. When I’m on call I make one
hour’s pay at straight time for each 6 hours on call while I’m not at the
hospital and if I get called in to do an echo, I automatically get paid for two
hours of work at my overtime pay rate (which I think is time and a half) even
if I don’t stay the full two hours. I
take call approximately 3 week nights and one full weekend every month. Working full time, with additional overtime
and on call pay, it is easy for experienced sonographers to make six figures in
this field. Of course, hourly wages vary
with location, but a recent salary report found the median income for
sonographers in the United States was $78,000 (including overtime and on call
time).
Do you anticipate making any career changes in the next 5 to 10 years?
Do you anticipate making any career changes in the next 5 to 10 years?
No. The Doernbecher Echo Lab is my dream
job. I feel incredibly lucky to have
landed this job so early in my career. Of
course, because I’m relatively new to this field there is a possibility I could
be unfulfilled in the future but I’m feeling optimistic about a long-term
presence here.
If you could have any other job in the world, what would it be?
A
veterinarian! I LOVE all animals and
wish I would have thought about this career when I was younger.
If someone else was interested in your job, what piece of advice would you give them?
If someone else was interested in your job, what piece of advice would you give them?
The
most important advice I have for someone thinking about this career is to visit
the CAAHEP website for a list of accredited programs. Accredited programs guarantee time in a
clinical location (such as a hospital or Doctor’s office) which ultimately leads
to employment after graduation. There
are many programs out there that aren’t accredited and charge $40,000 a year
without the clinical experience piece of the curriculum. In my opinion, these programs are a waste of
time and money as most places will not hire graduates from these schools. Also, graduating from an accredited program
guarantees eligibility to sit for ARDMS board exams. Most employers today list ARDMS credentials
as a requirement in their job postings.
I also
recommend trying to job shadow or interview a local sonographer to evaluate
comfort level in a healthcare environment.
How are you with bodily fluids?
Odors? Life and death situations? It’s funny, if I would have known about the
stressful parts of my job I probably wouldn’t have pursued it. I get nervous when all eyes are on me and a
physician is asking me a string of questions over my shoulder. I was VERY squeamish before this career and
my job has definitely taught me to be more tolerable of gross things. Also, I’m so much better at dealing with
stressful situations.
How do you balance work life and home life?
Right
now, work life and home life feel pretty balanced. I enjoy my shift; I don’t start too early or
leave too late, so I have time to pursue activities that fulfill me. I have most of my weekends free to do as I
wish. Luckily, my work doesn’t require me to bring it home and once I leave the
hospital I don’t have to think about checking email or returning phone calls. I’ve learned to make the most of my free time
because when I’m on call my day is so unpredictable that I can’t really make
plans. However, I do really worry about work/life balance once
Colin and I start a family. I think I’ll
struggle working full time or being on call with a kid at home and no immediate
family in Portland. It’s sad to think
about having to work on holidays, weekends, and throughout the summer as kids
are growing up. I’m sure I’ll strongly
consider working part time or reduce my hours if we do have kids. However, at the moment, life is pretty dang
sweet and I’m enjoying every moment of it.
Lindsay, thanks so much for sharing!! I loved your story and had really had no idea about the ins/outs of what a sonographer does. Fascinating. Thanks for putting this together Jo. One of these weekends I will carve out some time to write one up. Keep it up!
ReplyDeleteI know, isn't it so fascinating? I love hearing what other people do for work, especially when they clearly love their profession.
DeleteHi Joanna, you wrote a really great article with detailed information about what you do for work. I can feel that you enjoy your career. Thanks for sharing your story with us. Best regards from Lisa
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